We communicate with retired FBI agent Wayne Barnes about his profession in counterintelligence, from undercover work with the Black Panthers and a hidden Nixon assassination plot to debriefing Chilly Struggle defectors and recruiting Soviet intelligence officers. We additionally dig into his e-book A Traitor within the FBI, the hunt for a Russian mole contained in the Bureau, and the tradecraft, deception, and fortunate breaks that formed the case.
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00:00 — Begin
01:16 — Debriefing Chilly Struggle Defectors
02:28 — Wayne Barnes’ Origin Story
07:13 — Penn State, Villanova, and the Highway to the FBI
14:08 — Early FBI Profession Earlier than Quantico
17:39 — The Undercover Black Panther Operation
26:38 — The Compton Vetting Take a look at
29:52 — Invoice Cosby, Backstopping, and the Cowl Story
31:23 — George H.W. Bush and the UN Recognition Play
35:59 — The Hidden Nixon Assassination Plot
39:22 — Debriefing Defectors and the CIA-FBI Divide
42:49 — Ion Pacepa and the Romanian Intelligence Collapse
45:33 — Courtship: CIA and FBI Working Collectively
48:08 — Nation Music, Cowl Legends, and Recruiting Soviets
53:06 — The FBI Mole Hunt Begins
59:21 — The Mission: Get a Russian to Establish the Mole
01:04:25 — Robert Hanssen, Breach, and What the Film Missed
01:07:03 — Setting the Stage on the Santa Monica Movie Competition
01:11:17 — Hollywood Assist, Polly Platt, and Backstopping Ivan
01:20:03 — Staging the First Visible Contact
01:25:43 — Who “Ivan” Was and Why He Mattered
01:28:58 — The Poolside Setup That Made Contact Attainable
01:35:35 — Why Chilly Pitches Don’t Work
01:42:24 — What Occurred After Ivan Pointed Out the Photograph
01:48:38 — Brian Kelley, False Leads, and Useless Drop Maps
01:52:52 — Why the Case Virtually Disappeared
01:58:23 — Robert Redford, Three Days of the Condor, and Actual-World Fallout
02:06:37 — What Spy Films Get Unsuitable
02:09:01 — A Traitor within the FBI and Last Ideas
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