Former CIA focusing on officer Brittany Butler joins us to debate her path from a small city in Georgia to the CIA, the place she helped construct goal packages in opposition to extremist networks in Iraq and Afghanistan. She breaks down what focusing on officers truly do, the realities of working with detainees and liaison companions, and the way the combat advanced from AQI towards ISIS and Taliban senior management.
Brittany additionally talks about burnout, leaving the company to deal with household, her work supporting Afghan ladies, and the way these experiences formed her spy novels The Syndicate Spy and The Patriot’s Daughter.
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00:00 — Begin / Britney Butler joins The Crew Home
02:06 — Rising up in Georgia and wanting a life abroad
02:39 — Embassy internship in Paris and first getting seen by CIA
07:57 — Making use of to CIA and going by the recruitment course of
10:06 — Way of life polygraphs, clearance stress, and “confessing” an excessive amount of
14:15 — From case officer monitor to CIA focusing on officer
15:09 — The post-9/11 rise of focusing on officers
16:16 — Coaching as a targeter and studying the job beneath strain
19:09 — Iraq: constructing goal packages in opposition to Sunni extremist networks
21:21 — Sitting throughout from detainees and calling out their lies
23:48 — Why folks joined terrorist teams: coercion, cash, and beliefs
27:19 — AQI, Iraq, and seeing the menace evolve towards ISIS
28:22 — Shifting to Afghanistan-Pakistan and focusing on senior management
32:46 — Taliban secure haven, Pakistan, and why the conflict wasn’t going away
37:10 — Kill/seize, recruitment, drone strikes, and the way focusing on modified
37:46 — Liaison missions and high-threat conferences with out U.S. safety
41:44 — Marriage, household, and balancing CIA work with dwelling life
45:25 — Burnout, maternity depart, and deciding to go away the company
48:11 — Afghan ladies’s rights work and the beginning of her writing profession
52:24 — The Syndicate Spy and writing ladies into energy within the Center East
55:46 — The Patriot’s Daughter, Russia, disinformation, and civil conflict fiction
59:16 — CIA tradecraft in fiction and publication evaluation
01:01:00 — E-book tour, the place to search out Britney, and shutting questions
01:02:20 — Khost, UBL, fallen CIA officers, and last reflections
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