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PENTAGON PRESS SECRETARY JOHN F. KIRBY: So Basic Hilbert, thanks a lot to your time as we speak and for being keen to do that. And — and sir, I’ll flip it over to you.

BRIGADIER GENERAL JOSEPH HILBERT: OK, thank — thanks, Mr. Kirby. And — and actually to all of you, thanks — thanks for taking your time and — and we’re simply — we’re — we’re grateful for the curiosity that you’ve within the mission — within the mission that we have over right here. I — I hope we’re in a position to reply — reply a few of the questions, as — as Mr. Kirby stated, and — and — and we sit up for the interplay with you.

So — so, you understand, as mentioned, I am the Commander of seventh Army Coaching Command right here in Germany, and simply sort of for background, I — previous to this, in a — in a earlier task, I used to be a Commander at Hohenfels on the Joint Multinational Readiness Heart simply south of right here. That’ll turn out to be essential a bit of bit later. I inform you that simply to say I — I have been watching or observing or been taking part within the JMTG-U mission on and off since about 2018 or so. 

Within the room with me as we speak, I’ve bought a number of members of our employees, and — and all of those of us have additionally been concerned in — within the mission actually since its inception in 2015 as much as as we speak. I am going to offer you a fast overview of — of the way it’s advanced, I am going to offer you some details about what we’re at present offering right here and different websites in Europe, and — after which we’ll discuss sort of particularly concerning the — about JMTG-U, the — the Joint Multinational Coaching Group-Ukraine, and — after which a few of the issues that it is — that — that they have been in a position to do, each beforehand and as we speak.

One — one factor I do wish to level out — you understand, that — like I stated, we began this mission in 2015 — it — nevertheless it was not the one touchpoint that we had with the Ukrainians and its affect was not — was not simply restricted to the coaching that was carried out inside, in — in Ukraine.

So what — a few of the issues that they have been in a position to do for us over the previous a number of years is that they have been in a position to additionally assist discover alternatives for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to take part in different U.S. workout routines actually throughout the theater.

For instance, as I discussed, the Joint Multinational Readiness Heart, the Ukrainians had participated in nicely over a dozen workout routines down in — down in Hohenfels actually from 2015, with — with models that ranged from the corporate crew all the way in which as much as the — to the battalion.

They — additionally they participated in a few of the smaller workout routines. We run a Sturdy Europe Tank Problem that they’ve participated in a single 12 months and — and interactions like that. So we have — we have been interacting with them for — for — for — actually, ever since — ever for the reason that mission began.

So far as — so far as the historical past of the mission previous to — previous to February 2020 — so, you understand, everyone knows that Russia invaded Ukraine and — and Crimea, sadly the Donbas in — in 2014, and — and what occurred on account of that may be a host of various coaching endeavors and partnerships with Ukraine, considered one of them being the Joint Multinational Coaching Group-Ukraine that began in 2015.

That mission that they’ve supplied, that actually advanced over time from offering fast wants coaching to Ukrainian Nationwide Guard battalions all the way in which as much as growing a fight coaching middle functionality in addition to, you understand, taking part in advising efforts with — with a number of different NATO allies and companions that have been working in Ukraine.

It didn’t initially contain the distribution of safety help gear nevertheless it was tied with the — with the safety help efforts that have been coming by — by the Division of State and thru the U.S. embassy in — in — in Kyiv.

So the — the way in which that mission began — in 2015, the primary group to go there was from the 173rd Airborne Brigade, a U.S. Army, Europe Africa ahead station brigade. And they also — they started the — the JMTG-U mission, after which after that, it went to a rotational mannequin, the place U.S. Army Nationwide Guard brigade fight groups would come over for a nine-month rotation, coaching with Ukrainians there in — in CTC — in — Fight Coaching Heart — Yavoriv within the Ukraine. 

After which there was one interval the place the one hundred and first Airborne Division came visiting as — as a part of that drive. It wasn’t all the Nationwide Guard brigade fight crew however was a bunch of individuals from the brigade fight crew that might come over as advisors.

Because the starting of that mission up till January 2022, we have educated a complete of 23,000-plus Armed Forces of Ukraine troopers from 17 completely different battalions and 11 completely different brigades that (inaudible) take part and practice there on the fight coaching middle Yavoriv. 

That coaching, you understand, the funds related to it, it is about $126 million invested in that program over time. So, the way in which this system advanced over time is the Armed Forces of Ukraine actually noticed that their in-state for Yavoriv was what they wished to construct was one thing much like our Joint Multinational Readiness Heart in Oberpfalz, our Nationwide Coaching Heart at Fort Irwin and our Joint Readiness Coaching Heart at Fort Polk Louisiana. 

These could be brigade degree, mixed arms coaching facilities that we’re in a position to practice troopers actually from the person up by the collective process and as lifelike eventualities as attainable by the assist of simulations, coaching gadgets and coaching aids. 

And chances are you’ll be acquainted that the situation in Yavoriv was — it was a Ukrainian coaching website with all the coaching services that you simply’d usually see on a base, every part from ranges to, as I discussed, coaching gadgets and simulations. 

And in order that’s the place we have been when — after we pulled the JMTGU coaching mission out of Ukraine and again to right here. And so, what I believe is likely to be useful now’s to — is to move off to Lieutenant Colonel Hopkins. He is the deputy commander for the 53rd Infantry Brigade Fight Group out of the state of Florida. They’re the — they have been the final group to have the mission and Todd can discuss to you about JMTGU and complete traces of effort there.

LIEUTENANT COLONEL TODD HOPKINS: Thanks, sir, Mr. Kirby and the press as you collect as we speak to listen to our story and a bit of bit about what we’re doing. I admire the chance to focus on a bit of little bit of how JMTGU has tailored to these wants and requests that our Ukrainian companions have requested of us as they’ve elevated in proficiency over time.

As I perceive, again in 2015, the requirement could have been demonstrating find out how to in place an impediment with American trainers within the lead. Nevertheless, that modified considerably. 

By the point we arrived in November of 2021, JMTGU had shifted from immediately practice — from us immediately coaching our companions to a extra suggested position and a extra over-the-shoulder fashion coaching, specializing in employees integration and synchronization. 

From daily we centered on aiding the AFU and billing coaching and doctrine and services, very similar to Basic Hilbert simply described, that built-in as all facets of warfighting to incorporate maneuver, fires and air protection. We particularly centered on growing their capability and functionality for self-defense whereas constructing readiness and NATO interoperability. 

We strive to do that in two methods. Particularly, we labored first to develop their fight coaching middle there in Yavoriv right into a facility able to coaching deadly brigade-level formations. We did this by advising the Yavorivs, the CTC Yavoriv employees on growth and execution throughout all phases of coaching rotations. 

These often began with a cellular coaching crew that might go and help with pre-rotational dwelling station coaching on NATO employees operations. We additionally, between completely different rotations, we sustained that different initiatives to incorporate anti-tank weapon methods.

So, for instance, you could have — you could have seen photos a couple of months in the past within the media overlaying the anti-tank missile vary there in Yavoriv in January, one of many final coaching occasions that we did earlier than repositioning again right here to Germany. 

So, from — to sort of recap, from 2015 we have been in a hands-on coaching particularly on the person and firm formations. However by January of this 12 months we have been particularly serving to them develop plans to conduct a Ukrainian-led division-level train throughout a number of coaching facilities in Ukraine. 

The second means that we have been aiding them, included advising on the strategic degree at land forces command and the Ukrainian common employees within the areas of doctrine, operations coaching, et cetera. 

JMTGU staffed a small coaching command advisory crew in Kyiv particularly in coordination with U.S. Workplace of Protection Cooperation that coordinated with different nations the missions that we have been tempting to attain. 

This effort assured that we made suggestions throughout their military that helped them obtain objectives in each coaching {and professional} reform. This assisted in efforts reminiscent of the event of a reliable non-commissioned officer corps that might feed initiative and make tactical selections primarily based on commander’s intent, which is a trademark of our military in addition to that of our NATO allies. 

Earlier than I hand it again over to Basic Hilbert, I wished to speak concerning the suspension of a mission. I might wish to share a short dialog that considered one of our trainers had with their counterparts earlier than we left, indicating that the — that officer particularly said that the largest mistake that the Russians made was giving us eight years to arrange for this. 

 Sure, so — thanks, Todd. So, you understand, as all of you might be acquainted what we seek advice from as Job Power Gator or the — or these troopers from the 53rd Infantry Brigade Fight Group out of Florida that they took the mission in November and because of the — because of the invasion of the Russians in Ukraine, we did get them organized to droop their mission after which repositioned them right here to Grafenwöhr in mid-February.

Now, since that point they’ve supported a bunch of operations in assist of the coaching command right here. The factor is although, after we needed to withdraw them from Ukraine, what we did know was that the repositioning was not going to be the tip of a relationship and we knew that finally, we might be again to working with and coaching the Ukrainians in some capability. 

So, just lately U.S. Army Europe Africa acquired a mission to start coaching Ukrainian troopers on the methods that they have been going to be supplied by the PDA authorities, you understand, the 155 millimeter howitzers, radars, armored autos, et cetera. 

And JMTGU, they’ve assumed the lead for that coaching right here in addition to in different websites in Europe. What we’re doing with it, is we’re taking small teams of Ukrainian troopers who’re already working in these profession fields. So, for the howitzers, they already Ukrainian artillerymen. If they’re driving armored autos they’re aware of these platforms which can be Ukrainian platforms. 

And so, they’re proficient with their very own methods. Properly, now what we’re doing is we re working by a streamlined course right here on the brand new gear that they’re going to be receiving. The purpose in all of that is to get them again as quickly as attainable in order that then they’ll — they’ll practice others inside their military on the gear that they — that they are receiving. What we would like be sure that of is that they perceive find out how to function and make use of these as successfully as they’ll on their very own and in accordance with their very own — their very own ways and their very own doctrine. 

We have — we’ve already carried out the preliminary — the preliminary tranches of coaching each right here and elsewhere and we’re at present on our — on our second group. What I’d — what I’d inform you is and to not communicate for the Ukrainian armed forces, however from personally observing it, the troopers that we’re receiving right here who’re taking the coaching are completely motivated, extremely skilled, and they’re — they’re doing rather well with the coaching that we’re given and I am very assured with their skills because the go ahead. 

So to offer a bit of bit of private view of that I am going to move over to Todd for a few of the feedback that has — he and his crew have seen since they have been coaching right here. 

COL. HOPKINS: Thanks once more, sir. It really is an honor and a pleasure to be working with our companions once more. A few of these that we all know personally and with many we share mutual acquaintances and customary tales. The troopers are, as Basic Hilbert stated, are extraordinarily competent and desperate to study the methods that we’re offering them. 

Most have already got a greater than ample — they even have a complicated understanding of Hill artillery, making these very fast and really centered coaching efforts. They’re completely centered on the process at hand and getting again to Ukraine.

Simply for instance of that, a few days in the past throughout one of many lunch breaks, one of many Ukrainian troopers acquired phrase from his — from hometown — his hometown that his hometown was being shelled. 

He and his crew instantly stopped what they have been doing and stopped consuming at their lunch and went again to coaching figuring out that that was how that they have been going to return and assist their homeland. 

So simply as a private word, I can not — I can not say anymore what an honor and a privilege it’s for us to be supporting these wonderful worriers defending their nation.

Sure, so — it is Basic Hilbert once more. So — so actually that — that — that does sort of wrap up our feedback right here. I’ll — you understand the — put sort of a bit of bit of private word on it as nicely and simply inform you, you understand, one of many lowest components of — of the mission, if not the bottom half actually was after we needed to pull them out of Ukraine, out of Yavoriv again in February.

However the — in all probability one of many excessive factors was absolute pleasure after we knew we have been going to place them again to work coaching Ukrainians and doing what — what the Division of the Army, the State of Florida despatched them over right here to do, which was — which was to coach our companions in Ukraine.

And so we’re — we’re grateful for that. It is a pleasure to observe daily. It is — it is simply one thing that we’re excited to do. So Mr. Kirby, I am going to move again to you. I hope for all of you that we have been in a position to reply a few of your questions and I believe we’re out there to take a couple of of them for you.

MR. KIRBY: Thanks, Basic and thanks, Lieutenant Colonel Hopkins. I actually admire the — all these framing remarks. And so we’ll — we’ll simply bounce proper into questions and I am going to simply begin happening the listing and in the event you bought one simply shout it out. We’ll begin with you, Lita.

Q: Hello, thanks a lot for doing this. Are you able to give us type of a way of what the coaching capability is and what number of trainers you’ve got there and whether or not you assume there’s a have to — to bolster it or in the event you’re already bolstering it and in that case by how a lot. Simply give us a scope of — of sort of the coaching as it’s now and what you are hoping to do as you go ahead. Thanks.

Sure, ma’am. So that is Joe Hilbert. The — that is going to sound like a non reply however the actuality is that the coaching capability that we have proper now’s applicable to the scale of the drive that we’re at present coaching. And the rationale that I — that I sort of say it that means is we — we will increase — we are going to increase to what’s required by U.S. European Command and U.S. Army Europe and Africa.

It’s not simply — I imply the — whereas — whereas JMTGU has the lead on the coaching, it is actually an entire of U.S. Army Europe and Africa assist to it and that is why I say that the capability exists to increase it. Based mostly on — primarily based on the assist we’re getting from different U.S. Army Europe and Africa models and that is why it is a bit of bit — additionally, it is a bit of bit exhausting to say what’s the limitation, the place can we — the place can we attain the cannot do extra degree.

However we’re — we’re scaling the mission applicable for the necessities that we bought.

Q: And might I simply ask a follow-up. Are you having any difficulties getting the Ukrainian troopers to the coaching after which again into Ukraine?

No, ma’am. Not — to not my data.

MR. KIRBY: OK. Subsequent one, Tom Bowman.

Q: Sure, that is for both officer. Are you able to discuss a bit of bit about how the Ukrainians have improved over the previous variety of years? Particular capabilities, there’s been quite a bit point out about EW, for instance. 

And likewise within the battle to date, something jumps out at you about how the Ukrainians are performing. After which lastly, this possibly is for senior protection official primary, is there any means we will get entry to the coaching and if not, why not?

MR. KIRBY:  I am going to move it — I am going to move it over to the Basic now.

Sure. So — so — so I believe, you understand, the query is how — how have we seen the Ukrainians enhance (inaudible) I believe the — I believe the only reply I’d offer you is the — the — in the event you — in the event you simply have a look at what has occurred over for the reason that invasion and what the Ukrainians have been in a position to do, they took the coaching to coronary heart. 

They — they have been — they have been — they have been very obsessed with it, they invested in it. And so you understand particular examples could be a bit of bit troublesome to do from a — you understand we perceptively should look and — and start to match 2014 to 2022.

However I believe the quote that Colonel Hopkins gave you, you understand, from the Ukrainians is, you understand, the worst factor Russia did is give us eight years to arrange. And I’ll inform you they used that point very properly. 

And — and we did see additional time an funding and a non commissioned officer core, for instance, one thing that was not current earlier than the — the — an funding there. The funding within the coaching capabilities and the simulations that have been at Yavoriv to then to have the ability to put together for giant scale fight operations to coach their staffs on find out how to synchronize, mix arms and issues of that nature.

All of that incrementally additional time and all of that funding in — in — of their capabilities and their forces I believe has — have — you simply see the way it’s paid off. We see it in — you understand we see it on the particular person degree within the troopers that come right here to coach in not simply their motivation however then additionally their — each their technical, their tactical capabilities. And their — their the place withal after they are available in to — to undergo the coaching.

Q: All proper, thanks.

MR. KIRBY: OK. Jennifer Griffin. 

Q: Thanks very a lot. I am simply curious and I — possibly I missed it, the coaching that you simply’re doing, is it of the Ukrainian comfortable forces and the way are you insuring that the weapon methods that you simply’re coaching them on are going to them when they’re again on the entrance traces and never simply going by the traditional navy system? Thanks. 

Sure, ma’am. So I believe I hear you ask if we have been coaching Ukrainians — so only for clarification did you say Ukrainians SOF as in particular operations forces?

Q: Sure, sir. 

So we’re coaching the forces which can be going to make use of the gear that they’ve and so — or the gear that they’re going to be issued as a part of the PDA. So within the case of the artillery items that we’re coaching on, these troopers are artillery troopers who’re getting coaching on these artillery methods that they may then obtain on the far finish. 

As far — and that play itself out with the radars and with the armored personnel carriers as nicely. So far as talking to the ensures of how the gear is transferred, I actually must move that one to — move that one again because the tasks we’ve is for the coaching portion of it after which these items of PDA gear they’re flowing on into theater.

Q: However are you able to verify that the primary 50, for example, artillery males that you’ve educated that they’ve — that they’re now utilizing these Howitzers on the frontline?

Sure, I believe Mr. Kirby briefed that one final week. 

OK, David Martin.

Q: A pair issues. One, it sounds such as you’re speaking from Grafenwöhr however might you inform us one the place you might be? And two, the place the coaching is happening particularly when it comes to areas? And produce us up to the mark on the numbers? What number of have been by and on what methods and what number of are at present in coaching on what methods?

Sure, sir. So I can inform you, sure, we’re — we’re coaching in Grafenwöhr. So far as numbers, it is system dependent. We have — we have got between 50, 60 right here which can be at present coaching in our artillery methods. And actually we glance so far as teams that come by or what we’re time period in tranches which can be coming by. And so we’re on a second tranche now that is coming by. And that is why it is a bit of tougher to say nicely, the numbers coming by are set exhausting in stone as a result of once more we’re constructing the aptitude primarily based off of or the capability primarily based off the necessities that we bought and what’s coming by.

Q: So –

MR. KIRBY: And, David, clearly there’ some nations right here the place we’re conducting coaching that aren’t comfy having that be publically introduced. So we’ll proceed to respect that.

Q: Sure. However are you able to give me the numbers that — of artillery males and radar operators and armored personnel service operators that you’ve educated to date and the quantity that you’re coaching at present?

Hey, sir, I am going to simply — I actually wouldn’t really feel comfy giving sort of the particular numbers out that we at present educated or are coaching. We’re — we’re coaching an applicable quantity for the methods that we’ve and for the lads. And I am going to — and I am afraid I simply in all probability ought to go away it there.

MR. KIRBY: OK, Sam LaGrone, USNI.


Q: Are y’all doing any of the coaching with any of the maritime methods? If not, I am good.

From our finish, sir, simply the methods introduced.

Q: Thanks.

MR. KIRBY: OK. Dan Lamothe.

Q: Thanks. Only a query on throughput. You talked about the chance or on the availability of increasing capability. Based mostly on what’s really occurring on the bottom proper now do you’ve got any sense that that is more likely to happen or a minimum of within the quick time period even an possibility?

From — a bit of bit out of my lane because the — because the coach to be — to be very trustworthy. However once more we have — we’re ready to increase the coaching as required primarily based off of the throughput of kit going by. Whether or not or not that throughput’s going to extend or whether or not or not extra methods are going to return in, I’d actually should defer there.

However we bought the capability that we have to practice now and we have got extra capability we will contribute to it.

Q: Thanks. 

MR. KIRBY: OK, Jeff Seldin, VOA.

Q: Thanks very a lot. A pair questions for both of you. How a lot of the coaching is targeted on the methods versus how a lot of it will get into the Russian methods and ways that the Ukrainian forces might be going through? And likewise to what extent has Russia’s conduct — navy conduct in locations like Syria impacted how you’ve got been doing the coaching?

Sure, so the — so far as the coaching on the methods versus the ways, it’s — it’s on the system however clearly in coaching on the system there’s a tactical portion to it that’s coated as nicely. So there’s — so there’s going to be each technical instruction with the — with the groups that we have right here on simply bodily find out how to function it. After which there’s going to be tactical instruction on find out how to worker. 

To be actual honest so far as the tactical dialogue, lots of that’s Ukrainian pushed from what they’ve skilled all prepared in battle. We are going to — we are going to assist them and reply questions after they wish to have the dialogue about what is likely to be a great way or what is likely to be a greater approach to worker the system. 

However candidly they have — they have the good thing about expertise and they also’re mainly merging their expertise with the technical coaching that we’re giving them to find out one of the best ways to worker it.

MR. KIRBY: OK. Jack Detsch, Overseas Coverage.

Q: Thanks. I wish to follow-up on one thing Secretary Austin was requested within the Congressional listening to yesterday. He was requested about Javelin coaching kits and apparently sufficient do not get ahead to Ukrainian troops. I used to be simply curious to get your sense on both the numbers or relative functionality of the Ukrainians on the Javelin methods since clearly they’re one of the vital prolific methods within the discipline now?

Hey, certain, I suppose the — from mine, I can inform you that the coaching that we supplied to them earlier than JMTG-U left, they’re proficient on the coaching system. As for the remainder of it, I am going to — I am going to should — I am going to should defer that one again. I am simply not aware of the testimony that was given and the background there.

KIRBY: All proper, Jack, I am going to take it and see if there’s some extra to it than that. I — I simply do not know.

Q: All proper, thanks.

KIRBY: Paul Handley, the AFP.

Q: Hello. And I’ve a query later for the SDO. Are you coaching, or do you should practice the Ukrainians on using precision-guided or good munitions for this artillery?

Sir, we’re coaching them on the — the methods that they’re receiving and the munitions that they’re going to be receiving in assist of it. And I am going to simply go away that there.

KIRBY: All proper. Tony Capaccio?

Q: Hello, sirs. Thanks for takin the decision. You each talked about mixed arms a pair occasions. I wish to ask you, is Job Power Gator taught or educated on using drones to — for reconnaissance and supply concentrating on for artillery, this complete sensor to shooter structure that the U.S. navy practices on the NTC and different locations, you understand, using Switchbades, Phoenix, the — nicely, Phoenix Ghost, or Puma, to cue artillery and counter-radar — counter-artillery radar?

Sure, sir. So, you understand, as part of what Job Power Gator was doing whereas in — whereas in Ukraine as part of JMTG-U, they have been, you understand, clearly coaching, or serving to the Ukrainians work their coaching for — for using — you understand, for taking all mixed arms and creating an impact on the battlefield.

As for particular coaching on — on particular methods and particular TTPs for that, once more, we — the coaching that we’re conducting right here proper now’s relative to the methods which can be coming by within the PDA. After which, you understand, it might be conjecture — I imply, successfully, if something have been to vary, we might — we might then usher in the suitable specialists to — to coach the crew on what they wanted to then practice on different methods which may go ahead.

Q: However, sir, you — we — the U.S. is offering drones and Switchblades and Pumas. That is been publicly acknowledged. All I am asking is whether or not you are combining this coaching when it comes to a synergy, utilizing drones to assist cue artillery for this upcoming artillery duel that the world’s been ready for?

Yeah, so — so, once more, that, sort of, will get to the — to the ways portion of the — of the merging of the 2. And — and, you understand, what I’d say there’s that is — these are — these are a part of the discussions, not essentially system-specific however — however methods when it comes to find out how to use quite a lot of concentrating on methods to derive your goal location in an effort to move that again to the howitzers.

So we’re, you understand, in a — when it comes to our, you understand, artillery coaching, we’re coaching the what’s sometimes called the gunnery triad, the fireplace assist aspect that is going to find the goal; the supply aspect, the weapons system itself; after which the fireplace route aspect, how you are going to compute the information. After which that is — that is all labored in there, labored in there collectively.

Q: Properly, the drones are a part of that, although, proper, when it comes to the fireplace — it is scouting a goal?

KIRBY: Hey — hey, Tony, I believe he answered the query.

Q: OK, thanks, John.

KIRBY: Yeah. Phil Stewart?

Q: Hey there. Simply two — two fast questions. One is, have all of the Ukrainians who’ve gone for coaching returned to the battle? 

Had been any of them left coaching and — and/or gone AWOL or something like that?

After which, secondly, what’s the — you talked about lots of the — you understand, lots of the upside from this coaching. Has there been any sort of challenges, or has all of the coaching gone very simply?

Was there something difficult in any respect about any of this coaching for the Ukrainians that you simply’re coaching?


GEN. HILBERT: So, you understand, to reply your first query, to our data, all those which have acquired the coaching have returned. You already know, we’re not conscious of any that haven’t. And to be actual trustworthy with you, those which can be right here, sort of, like as Todd talked about, you understand, on the lunch break, they’re very severe concerning the mission that they have to do. They usually’re very severe concerning the significance of that mission. And they also completely wish to get again to the battle.

They’re right here for a motive. They understand it. They usually’re able to get again to it.

So far as challenges, I imply, there’s — there’s — there are the pure challenges related to coaching in a second language, every part from overcoming language barrier to a few of the technical items.

When — after we — what I’d inform you is we — we’ve to think about this when it comes to interoperability, which in — in Europe, and actually within the Army, after we have a look at interoperability, we have a look at three domains, the human, the procedural and the technical. 

And there is challenges related to all of these three. We overcome the human with — when it comes to the translators. We overcome the — the — the technical and the procedural with the coaching that we’re conducting.

Q: OK, Mr. Kirby, that is Basic Hilbert. I believe we could have…

KIRBY: Oh, I am sorry. I used to be muted. I am sorry, that was on me. I apologize.

Laura Seligman, Politico?

Q: Hey, John, thanks for doing this. I wished to ask you, sir, primarily based in your interactions with the Ukrainian troopers, what else are they asking for?

I there another sort of gear that they need or want for the battle, each gear but in addition in — when it comes to coaching, possibly higher numbers, completely different sort of — completely different sort after all, completely different sort of coaching. What are you seeing that they want for this new battle?

GEN. HILBERT: Yeah, so the — I imply, you understand, the feedback that we get from the troopers on the bottom are clearly being staffed up by — by their command for what they want, what they want particularly.

And — and, you understand, once more, they’re — they’re they’re grateful for every part that they’ve been given or that they’re getting by this PDA. They’re grateful for — you understand, for that complete — for all the gear that they are — that they are getting by. 

As for the, you understand, the — what do they particularly want for his or her subsequent battle? That is being — that is being labored between — that is being labored, you understand, nicely, actually above — above right here, to make it possible for they’re getting the suitable gear going ahead. 

I’ll inform you the — what we’re listening to from the troopers is what we’re giving them is — is what they want, they usually’re grateful for all of it.

Q: I am simply questioning, particularly…

KIRBY: All proper…

Q: … concerning the — the self-propelled artillery. Would there be any benefit, in your eyes, of giving them, like a Paladin, fairly than the towed artillery?

KIRBY: Hey, Laura, that is — that is not a query for the trainers. That is — that is a — that is a query for the — the coverage of us which can be working immediately with the Ukrainians. I believe that is past the scope of their experience right here.

Tara Copp?

Q: Thanks for doing this. A query for each of you. Since Russia launched its invasion greater than 9 weeks in the past, as you proceed to do outreach with Ukrainians, have there been any modifications in ways that you simply’re now coaching to that they’ve both seen on the battlefield or that you have noticed, that you have tailored to, and will you present any examples?

GEN. HILBERT: Sure, ma’am. I imply, I — I — I believe — I believe we sort of talked — you understand, talked by that one a — a bit of bit earlier however, you understand, the — the underside line is — is they’re — the — they’re — they’re a studying drive and they’re — they’re studying primarily based off of the conduct they’re seeing and the conduct they anticipate to see, after which they’re making the variations that they want.

We begin from a ground-based doctrine, the place — you understand, a doctrinal strategy with them so far as employment of the methods, after which they take that doctrinal strategy they usually apply it in opposition to the present state of affairs they’re in after which they give you the — the way in which they assume they wish to make use of it going ahead.

So far as particular examples, I — I — I do not actually — I might desire to not get into these.

Q: Simply to observe up on that, are there additionally instances the place your unit has been watching this battle unfold and realized from what the Russians are doing, not solely to use to your personal coaching sooner or later however to show to the Ukrainians?

GEN. HILBERT: We’re completely being attentive to what has occurred on the market and we’re completely incorporating the teachings noticed and the teachings that we realized within the a part of the coaching that we do, and that is throughout the entire drive.

MR. KIRBY: OK, Barbara?

Q: Thanks. My first query may return to a few of your authentic years of coaching with Ukrainians, pre-invasion, and maybe you possibly can deal with it and deal with it extra just lately as nicely. How do you assess their digital warfare capabilities and whether or not the EW gear, reminiscent of safe communications, you have supplied them has been a assist to them?

GEN. HILBERT: Yeah, ma’am, I am — I am afraid I am — I am — I am probably not ready to debate that. I — I do not — you understand, once more, they’re — they’re studying on the battlefield and — as all of us are and all of us are being attentive to what occurs within the electromagnetic spectrum after which we — we — we take the — the measures that might be prudent to outlive in that setting, the place you understand you are in danger due to any variety of — of very apparent threats.

Q: And if I might simply shortly observe up — really, Kirby, I am unsure I actually did hear a solution to Tony’s query — are you in a position — was your reply to Tony Capaccio “sure, that coaching on utilizing drone expertise is included within the coaching that you simply’re giving them?” Is {that a} sure or a no on drones?

GEN. HILBERT: So once more, we’re — we’re coaching on these three methods and what I’d say is the — on the observer piece, we’re — we’re coaching them on find out how to use observers, whether or not they’re air-based or ground-based or — or another observers into their — what they’re doing.

MR. KIRBY: OK, final query to Courtney.

Q: Hello, thanks. Are — observers are drones, is that what which means? Unmanned methods?

GEN. HILBERT: Observers are something that may observe a goal.

Q: So what — what we might name an unmanned drone? I do know we have — I do know that we have been — the nomenclature for what a — a drone or unmanned system or all of that modifications about each seven and a half seconds, however once you — I simply wish to be clear that we’re — that we’re characterizing this appropriately. You are speaking about unmanned — unmanned methods that the U.S. has introduced they’re offering to the Ukrainian navy?

GEN. HILBERT: I’ve — I am — I am actually speaking about something that may observe a goal, from manned, unmanned. Something that may observe a goal is an observer.

Q: OK. And so that might additionally embrace radars … 


MR. KIRBY: … I believe that — I believe that — I imply, I — I — I perceive the curiosity on this however I believe he is answered these questions as — as nicely and as ably as he can, and I believe you possibly can perceive, as we have talked about earlier than, you understand, that — that we’re simply not going to have the ability to get into each single operational element of assist to the Ukrainians, and I believe you possibly can perceive that.

Do you’ve got one other query, Courtney?

Q: Can — can I ask yet one more after which a — yeah — yeah, yet one more administrative is simply merely are you able to — can — can somebody both electronic mail round their names to us or are you able to … 

MR. KIRBY: Yeah, we will do this … 

Q: … spell your names?

MR. KIRBY: … we will do this.

Q: OK, that is the one factor. Thanks.

MR. KIRBY: All proper — all proper, Basic and Colonel, thanks very, very a lot. You’ll be able to see numerous curiosity on this matter. We went by each single individual on the listing. I am going to toss it over to you when you’ve got any ultimate feedback you wish to make. You do not have to in the event you do not wish to however I did not wish to simply dangle up with out providing you with an opportunity, if there’s anything you wished to handle actual shortly with the press corps.

GEN. HILBERT: No, sir, I — simply — actually, for all of you, we — we actually, genuinely admire your curiosity and assist on this. And, you understand, we’re — we’re very proud — once more, I — I can not over — overstate — simply happy with what we’re in a position to do right here and actually happy with what — what we’re seeing with the Ukrainians which can be coaching right here. So — so thanks once more. Thanks, sir.

MR. KIRBY: Thanks very a lot, Basic. And — and Colonel Hopkins, I admire your time. We’ll let — we’ll take a few minutes to allow you to get off the road and take a break after which we’ll — for all of you who — who’re staying behind, we’ll come again on in just some minutes.

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